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"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." Genesis 3:5

I wonder if anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts on what they believe actually happened when mankind ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? 

Does it represent a move into a higher form of conciousness? And if so, in what way?

Does the realisation of seperation of good and evil also provoke further kinds of differentiation in the evolved conciousness, in particular the difference between "I" and "Other"?

It's a subject that has intrigued me for years. Why did it become known as Original Sin? The conventional (Christian) response is that this term refers to our disobedience to God, but what if we take sin (Greek: hamartia) in its original meaning, that of 'missing the mark' or 'falling short', rather than angering God (if such a thing is possible?!).

When we do so, could we not conclude that our primary shortcoming/original sin is this sense of seperation and distinction engendered by this change of conciousness  - in that once it occurred we were unable to see the true Unity of all creation?


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While it is the norm to think Adam and Eve were removed for disobedience, I think the following verses indicated that it was to prevent them from becoming fully gods by eliminating the possibility of their gaining immortality.

Gen 2:22-23 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

History indicates that man has been seeking immortality ever since - from what some consider bodily resurrection of Jesus, insuring it for the believers, to alchemist's Philosopher's Stone, to the searches for the fountain of youth.

yes, i'm sure you're right Sophia.

heard many people suggest that the punishment for eating the fruit was death/mortality, but as you point out, the pair were expelled before they could eat of the tree of life and become immortal...suggesting that they were NOT created immortal at all.


thanks Sophia


I'd like to welcome you, simon peter.  I'm not here often; however, your topic came to my email and I found it interesting.  


It's a subject that has fascinated me for ages. What is it that has made us feel so desperately separate from the world we inhabit? Condemned to wander through time like strangers in a strange land?


Excellent question that is open to much speculation.  If we examine the Genesis story, we find mankind in Eden with no competition from other humans.  Move forward to the world in our time, and we find the majority living in congested urban areas competing and fighting with fellow man for limited jobs and resources.    It seems to be the smaller, more rural groupings where there is more satisfaction and serenity.   The latter are closer to nature - less a concrete jungle.

Consider the covenants God made with man.  Many have the promise of God to give many descendants.   I'm not so sure this was a blessing as much as a curse in the long run.  


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