the more i look the less meaning i find
do you feel there is a purpose but your out of the loop?
as if it's there 2 inches from your face but you can't grasp it and don't know what it is?
Thanks Tl very nice
cant say shurely
uau tlandcurtis..how auspicious...am listening to the long version Namastê
i am observing something i do not understand i cant understand why am i in it maybe like this
Perhaps one cannot yet quite grasp the meaning or point of life, so leads you to believe that there is no meaning I know how you feel Guntars
but if in the end everything is meaningless do we need meaning?
I think maybe because you cannot yet fully explain why we 'exsist', so for the time being you feel there is no meaning good question do you think we need meaning?
i think not and the world has proved it so
perhaps there is no real meaning, but that could mean we have to make our own meaning?
many little meanings as far as i see there is no greater meaning only small ones
maybe that is the 'real meaning of life', as the old saying goes 'life is what you make it'
is that career or mindset? brb
maybe if life does have a meaning, then we could all just be sitting around on the journey, as if fate guides us all. but maybe if we believe there is no 'fate' as such that controls everything, and we do as we please i.e. create our own purposes and meanings then we are truely free with ironically would be 'the purpose of life' which* 'The purpose of life, is to establish your own purpose' perhaps food for thought I guess
i think we are in hell my friend
"the gift of life" to enyoy your life being born in africa and dying from famine sounds awsome or whatever more all the vile things what happen here on earth
better never to be born and i am a tittle responible for the occouring actions we are with our systems and our ambitions makes me sick
being born living in fear of everything and then dying and all of that for nothing you will never ever be anymore just wow sonuds awsome
fken consciouseness its an error like dreams are an error they shouldnt be research it if you are not shure about this
but if we are to return back to the great spheres once we die, then perhaps we are in our hell right now or purgatory perhaps
what is a great sphere?
I suppose more commonly 'Heaven'
but there is none
this is a fucking great conversation. lol.
please join Echemythia, grab a chair lol
guntars is an excellent skeptic. and i am honestly sypathetic with guntars.
how do you know there is no Heaven Guntars?
do you know that there is?
I see his point and I often feel as he does, Im just saying ideas and theorys, my own opinion is yet to be decided thats what Im saying, you can say theres no Heaven just as easily as saying there is one the fact is, we don't really know, just have theories and ideas
excellent as well.
of course i cant be shure about anything i have learned in my lifetime, but as life goes i get all the evidence for no god and no heaven and zero for one to be
If we are to return to heaven when we die, then why do we breifly come here, if we don't, then why do we still breifly come here
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why why why
regardless of heaven or not, what is the purpose of being here
must there be one? i mean... i'd like for there to be.
for the purpose of debating the purpose of life I think not I think we'd all like there to be
the question itself is fascinating... "what would you DO if there was no meaning in life? no purpose for living?"
it certainly is my friend
why is our behavior so rooted in the need for meaning.
I think we all search for meaning and purpose, its like our nature maybe the purpose of life is, to find A purpose to fulfil our needs lol
right... that's an existentialist thing that i've heard. "it's exactly because life is meaningless that we are free to give it meaning" but... idk what that does for me. lol.
its a really interesting point but surely if we are free to find our own meaning, that could qualify as being the meaning of life? the 'opportunity' to discover meaning in our lives, IS the meaning of life perhaps?
well one of them is Religion, but id doesn't fit me because i know it is not true
why does that have to be religion?
unfortunately I have to go now, great discussion guys. I've been thinking of creating a group on here for such discussions, I might create on later and copy ours into it is you'd like?
sure! let us know.
I think religion is a means of control, or perhaps guidence?
I liked this discussion m;y opinion is that we as humans need meaning for whatever reason we do. jsut like I belive hyumans need belif. too. I tried to not beleive in anything tried real hard and I felt hopeless and lost. kind of like If I felt there was no meaning to life. you know kind of hopeless and lost. I think thats an inner mechanism that makes me feel that way. like part of the universal laws. so to speak. I really think theres meaning Im not sure if the meaning is an individual purpose or a grand purpose that makes everything better. but I know it could be like the cycle of life. you know where one thing is meaning but it makes bigger things have meaning too and if the small thing didnt have meaning then the bigger thing wouldnt eitehr. its like were all connected somhow into this bigger meaning.. its like a perfect circle where one thing makes the other thing go. like the food chain. a lionhas to eat gazelles to feed himeself his meaningbut if he doesnt then the gazzelle population would eat all the grass and maybe throw the area into famine. a greater meaning. I hope this makes sense.
Really very nicely put Amber. I like how you explain small meaning with the Lion through to the big meaning of the grass, really interesting. How do you feel about the idea that maybe the meaning of life is to find our own meanings? Its pretty simular to your version of the Lions find their own meaning in eating gazelles, which therefore helps the bigger meaning, the prevention of the famine. So without our own meanings (the Lion) there is no meaning (the Grass).
I like how you said about trying not to believe but just feeling hopeless and los. How do you feel about atheism may I ask? I often feel that most people (at least from where I live) claim to be atheist (as it apparently makes them look cool not believing, but I don't think they truely are atheist. As in every day discussions they will innocently mention an afterlife etc etc. I think many believe in some form of afterlife perhaps without even realising it, or maybe they dont really understand atheism? At least thats what I get from my sleepy little town lol