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Introduction

The term Rosicrucian (symbol: the Rose Cross) describes a secret society of mystics, allegedly formed in late medieval Germany, holding a doctrine "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm.

Between 1607 and 1616, two anonymous manifestos were published, first in Germany and later throughout Europe. These were Fama Fraternitatis RC (The Fame of the Brotherhood of RC) and Confessio Fraternitatis (The Confession of the Brotherhood of RC). The influence of these documents, presenting a "most laudable Order" of mystic-philosopher-doctors and promoting a "Universal Reformation of Mankind", gave rise to an enthusiasm called by its historian Dame Frances Yates the "Rosicrucian Enlightenment".

In later centuries many esoteric societies have claimed to derive their doctrines, in whole or in part, from the original Rosicrucians. Several modern societies, which date the beginning of the Order to earlier centuries, have been formed for the study of Rosicrucianism and allied subjects.

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Comment by Excitorus on December 6, 2010 at 5:35pm
"Lunatic," Sorry, your words are much too clever to be understood by this simple mind. Influence requires exposure; take a risk, . . . or keep whispering from behind the curtains, your choice.

Michael, though it is [truly] a pleasure to hear you again, it is also unfortunate that the discussion has once again been lowered to the emptiness of "BS." That is not effective communication; it is merely stating, "I loath your actions."
Is it not clear how this is an uncontrolled emotional response, and that prevents engagement? You are a good person and have the the best of motives, but this underlying and remnant animosity stifles full expression of your better nature.

It is one thing to dream of being love, but quite another to actually be Unconditional Love, isn't it?

Only when the "I" is submerged, . . .


"To achieve these goals, we all need to work in conjunction with each other."

Exactly; now there's the desirable perspective.

". . . Let us clarify our attitude with regard to Rosicrucian, Masonic, and other organizations devoted to the General Good. Many Mahatmas have participated in them. And when we remember the original altruistic principles of these organizations, we must not turn away from them. When it concerns sincere motives, then all workers for the General Good must accept one another, especially when the spirit is developed and the consciousness is awake.

"Why should we listen only to condemnations? Only on the lower steps are words of condemnation uttered; . . . ."

-- "Agni Yoga," §473
Comment by AMENMAATRA on December 6, 2010 at 4:32pm
MILITIA CRUCIFERA EVANGELICA is not owned by AMORC anymore, it is owned by Gary Stewart (CR&C). Not sure if "Owned" is the right word here either...

This is from his web site...

Q: You also hold the office of the Knight Commander of the Order of the Militia Crucifera Evangelica, and the office of the Sovereign Grand Master of the British Martinist Order. Having such a deep traditional grounding, how do you view the future work of the esoteric traditions as they all strive to work towards the common objective? Is there a place for a closer cooperation among them?"

A: "There is definitely a place for cooperation amongst all esoteric, occult, and mystical organizations whether they consider themselves Rosicrucian, Martinist, or whatever appellation they choose. Ultimately we're all trying to accomplish the same goals -- the upliftment and spiritual evolution of all humanity. To achieve those goals, we all need to work in conjunction with each other."

http://www.crcsite.org/interview.htm
Comment by LUNATIC ALAN MICHEAL CULPEPPER on December 6, 2010 at 3:37pm
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Comment by Excitorus on December 6, 2010 at 2:59pm
This is hilariously inconsistent.

John, first you make a post (in a separate discussion which has disappeared) of material from AMORC that you claimed would make the practitioner one of the "top one percent" of humanity.

Now, you state that an organization under the control of AMORC is illegitimate. As if trying to suggest that AMORC itself is "illegitimate."

That's like saying "The organization is worthless, . . . but here are the valuable secrets I took from them."

Come on, which is it? Does AMORC have the goods or doesn't it? . . . . Frankly, this looks like some sort of personal vendetta, looking for any means to attack that particular organization. Alas, if that energy were just put to a constructive purpose. . .
Comment by gomez addams on December 6, 2010 at 1:40pm
Historical organisations cannot be registered by corporations.

MILITIA CRUCIFERA EVANGELICA is not legitimate order. It is a wordmark owned by AMORC

Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS). This search engine allows you to search the USPTO's database of registered trademarks and prior pending applications to find marks that may prevent registration due to a likelihood of confusion refusal.

Typed Drawing
Word Mark MILITIA CRUCIFERA EVANGELICA
Translations The English translation of the words "MILITIA CRUCIFERA EVANGELICA" in the mark is "defenders of the Rosy Cross".
Goods and Services IC 041. US 107. G & S: educational services; namely, conducting classes and seminars in the field of arts, sciences, psychology, philosophy, metaphysics, and mysticism. FIRST USE: 19390830. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19390830
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 74146408
Filing Date March 11, 1991
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition July 14, 1992
Registration Number 1722586
Registration Date October 6, 1992
Owner (REGISTRANT) SUPREME GRAND LODGE OF THE ANCIENT AND MYSTICAL ORDER ROSAE CRUCIS, THE NON-PROFIT PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION CALIFORNIA Rosicrucian Park, 1342 Naglee Avenue San Jose CALIFORNIA 95191
Attorney of Record EUGENE M PAK
Prior Registrations 0145313;AND OTHERS
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20030116.
Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 20030116
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

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Comment by ☤Tris☤ on November 27, 2010 at 12:08am
Yeah, I read that website when doing a search.

"The gesture of including Mary Stacey in his autobiography seemed to be a strategy for the reinforcement of Lewis’ claim to Rosicrucian authenticity. Although Lewis publicized her as the organization’s co-founder, Stacey never signed the group’s original charter (...) Therefore, a biographical sketch, supported by sources outside of the Rosicrucian Order (A.M.O.R.C.), is essential to determine whether or not Mary Stacey could have functioned in the capacity ascribed by Lewis."

Finally, Lewis benefitted from their relationship in ways that were obvious. In contrast, on can only speculate concerning the benefits to Mary Stacey. Therefore, the claims of Harvey Spencer Lewis pertaining to the degree of Stacey’s involvment with his organization must remain questionable. And, since that is the case, it would appear that Lewis’ claims of Rosicrucian authenticity wera just as incredulous as the claims of his rivals.

So we are back at our starting point concerning Lewis’ alleged rosicrucian filiation as Mrs. Stacey’s real connection with initiates of India or Egyptian remains to be proved.

Heikki, I did not know you were speaking of a particular sect of the order, to me, the Rosy Cross is a generalization of Rosicrucian-ism itself through symbol. The order known as "rosy cross", being separate, is one I am not familiar with.
Comment by AMENMAATRA on November 26, 2010 at 10:16am
There are several Rosicrucian orders, however there is only a hand full of legitimate ones, and so far the Ruusu-Risti Ry or Rosy-Cross as you call it doesn't seem like a chartered legitimate order. His order is called Ruusu-Risti Ry, and a google search will produce their website, google can also translate the site for you.

Here is a list of so called legitimate orders and societies represented on the first FUDOSI convention of 1934:

* ORDRE DE LA ROSE+CROIX UNIVERSELLE (Sar Hieronymus)
* ORDRE DE LA ROSE+CROIX UNIVERSITAIRE (Sar Hieronymus, Sar Elgrim)
* ORDRE KABBALISTIQUE DE LA ROSE+CROIX (Sar Yesir representing Lucien Mauchel)
* CONFRERIE DES FRERES ILLUMINES DE LA ROSE+CROIX (Sar Amertis)
* A.M.O.R.C. U.S.A. (Sar Alden, Sar Emmanuel, Sar Iohannes)
* MILITIA CRUCIFERA EVANGELICA (Sar Alden)
* ORDRE ANCIEN ET MYSTIQUE DE LA ROSE+CROIX AMORC-Switzerland (Sar Amertis representing sar Alkmaion)
* SOCIETE ALCHIMIQUE DE FRANCE (Sar Amertis)
* ORDRE DES SAMARITAINS INCONNUS (Sar Amertis)
* ORDRE HERMETISTE TETRAMEGISTE ET MYSTIQUE or ORDRE PYTHAGORICIEN (Sar Succus, Sar Helios)
* ORDRE MARTINISTE ET SYNARCHIQUE (Sar Yesir)
* FRATERNITE DES POLAIRES (Sar Yesir)
* ORDRE MACONNIQUE ORIENTAL DE MEMPHIS-MIZRAIM STRICTE OBSERVANCE (Sar Iohannes, Sar Ludovicus)
* CO-MASONIC ORDER OF MEMPHIS-MIZRAIM (Sar Laya, Sar Fulgur)
* L'EGLISE GNOSTIQUE UNIVERSELLE (Tau Targelius = Victor Blanchard)

ORDRE MACONNIQUE ORIENTAL DE MEMPHIS-MISRAIM (STRICTE OBSERVANCE) and the MIXED ORDER OF MEMPHIS-MIZRAIM, the only Masonic organizations associated with FUDOSI, were expelled according to a decision taken by the three Imperators (Lewis, Dantinne, Blanchard) on August 1, 1935.

Also, the CRC would be considered legitimate, as he broke away from AMORC and still gives out the first H.S. Lewis monographs. Gary Stewart the imperator of the CR&C is also in control of the MILITIA CRUCIFERA EVANGELICA another legitimate order.
Comment by AMENMAATRA on November 26, 2010 at 10:12am


Kuthumi Hierophant of AMORC was a great teacher from 19th Century Kashmir, India, though he lived mostly in Tibet. He channeled writings to Madame Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society, resulting in The Secret Doctrine, Isis Unveiled and other profound works.

El Morya a 19th Century master was an Indian prince who taught the masters Kuthumi and Djwal Khul. On a visit to London, he first approached the young Madame Helena Blavatsky and revealed her life's path. He directed her work, and assigned to Kuthumi the creation of the books she received. Mme. Blavatsky sometimes visited the three masters.

Madame Blavatsky, Kuthumi, El Morya, St. Germain
Comment by AMENMAATRA on November 25, 2010 at 9:08pm


"According to Theosophy, Kuthumi is considered to be one of the members of the Spiritual Hierarchy called the Masters of the Ancient Wisdom which oversees the development of the human race on this planet to higher levels of consciousness."


Here also appears for the very first time the name of Mrs May Banks-Stacey,27 whom the «masters of Egypt» - Lewis says – had chosen to bring him the testimony of a so-called pharaonic rosicrucian filiation:

«The cross used by the Rosicrucians as a symbol antedates Christ by 1,700 years (...) The family of Thotmis IV. founded the order and built the temple of Karnak and other temples, and were instrumental in having stored in the pyramids and other safe places the emblems and signs of material sciences and accomplishments. Realizing that some day knowledge might be wiped out, the family of Thotmis decided to store in the pyramids philosophies and secrets which could not be transcribed or otherwise indicated to perpetuate them for ‘time eternal’ (...) The supreme consuls in Egypt and India designated Mrs. May Banks-Stacey, widow of Colonel Stacey, U.S.A., to bring the jewels and symbols to this country. She also has the rosary used by the family of Thotmis about 1,500 B.C. The chain is made of skin, set with rubies, turquoises, amethysts, and other stones bearing weird hieroglyphics.»28

Lewis states that Mrs. Stacey has put in the Archives of the Supreme Grand Lodge of A.M.O.R.C. a declaration with the following statement:

«I further state that the said Jewels and incomplete instructions were delivered into my hands by the R.C. Masters of India, representing the Supreme Council of the World, and that I was there made an initiate of the Order and a Legate of the Order for America. I also state that the said Jewels and papers were represented to me as coming direct from Egypt and France, and that they were given to me to be formally handed to that man who should present certain papers, documents, jewels and ‘key’ in America. Such a person having matured and being Brother H. S. Lewis, I did the duty expected of me, fulfilled my commission and with pleasure express the joy at seeing the work so well under way in accordance with the prophecy made in India to me in person. The history of the Jewels and papers are, to my knowledge, exactly as stated herein and as described by Mr. Lewis, our Imperator, in the History of the Order as published in the Official Magazine.»30

http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/vanloo/ameng.htm
Comment by AMENMAATRA on November 25, 2010 at 8:43pm
The co-founder of AMORC "May-Banks" was part of the Theosophist Inner Circle, the esoteric group within the Society. Also, in relation to the Theosophical society and AMORC one may only look up two Theosophical Prophets/AMORC Masters. First, the pseudo Saint Germain the "AMORC Rosicrusian" whom published a Tarot deck in America which he stole from R. Falconnier. Second, Master Kut-Hu-Mi who was the beloved Hierophant of AMORC.
 
 
 

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