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So this thought appeared to me recently, and I'd thought I would throw out there for your consideration. Others have probably written about this, and if you know of anyone else that has, please send me a link or a book title or whatever. I think the idea is simply stated, but very complex. Also I wonder that the consideration of such an idea could be very "enlightening" as far as the relationship between the physical and mental realities are concerned. 
So lets start the title statement.

The word "God": Old English god "supreme being, deity; the Christian God; image of a god; godlike person," from Proto-Germanic *guthan (source also of Old Saxon, Old Frisian, Dutch god, Old High German got, German Gott, Old Norse guð, Gothic guþ), which is of uncertain origin; perhaps from PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" (source also of Old Church Slavonic zovo "to call," Sanskrit huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- "to call, invoke." The notion could be "divine entity summoned to a sacrifice."

Even the etymological roots of the word bring up some interesting anomalies.

Next is "egregore" (note that this is the simple Wikipedia definition. Root word analysis is not something I have access to at this point in time): is an occult concept representing a "thoughtform" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people.

If I was to start the very conversation for the topic at hand is there is a fair amount of overlap in these mental models. 

Now one could say that the origin of "God" is a bit murky and confusing given the different "source story" of the world and universe from different religious sects, but at the end of the day those stories were accepted as truth by those people and cultures.
Is that not similar to the creation of an egregore.


This is a very basic analysis of the terms, but there is so much more to dive into. 
Please feel free to share you own thoughts...

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Comment by Leda Swann on Wednesday

Fascinating subject, Chris ... I am reminded that someone suggested that the highest court of our land(ie U.S.A.) created an egregore inadvertently when it deemed 'corporations' to be people!! "Corporations are People", as Mitt Romney would say. As we know egregores not only demand 'payment' but can also develop their own consciousness and will. Maybe Corporate Egregores = Mammon?   Btw, another useful etymological study is the one that connects gold and guilt ( gilt) .... 

Comment by sav on August 3, 2018 at 9:53am

You're absolutely right about the link between paying attention and paying money and otherwise buying into the content informing one's life. The filters and lens through which each one of us perceives The Totality were there before the creation of language - but with language came deeper concepts. This is indeed a project to investigate further. 

Godios Amigo (?!)

Comment by Chris Kelley on August 2, 2018 at 6:00pm

This is what I like about this question or idea. Each person will have a different answer depending on their own perspective, and none of those answers are wrong. The initial question isn't so much about arriving at a definitive answer, but about understanding relationships with the mental (or psychological) and religious/spiritual symbolism. 
I might have to take this up as a project to investigate further.

Comment by neophyte on August 2, 2018 at 9:43am

Egregores have been said to equate to 'Watchers'.

Does the word share the same root as the word e-gregious? That word seems to have to contradictory meanings in recent times but seems to mean one who is separate,  or who stands out from the flock - the black sheep perhaps?

Other readings i've looked at suggest an egregore can grow beyond it's original intent and can span over several lifetimes keeping a connection with those individuals connected to it.

Comment by neophyte on August 2, 2018 at 9:36am

Man creates a thing he calls God in his own image, in his own mind but God is in His own Image in man. When man tries to 'summon' his God he summons something out of himself. Most often, i would propose, that thing bears little in common with God within. Only by emptying ourself of all sense of 'self' can we be at one with God - be in complete harmonisation with Him.

Or so i understand it at present. :-)


Mystic
Comment by anki on August 2, 2018 at 3:53am

I agree if we take God as the sum total of everything together, the energy of all of us in one than it matches perfectly the idea of egregore.

Comment by Chris Kelley on August 1, 2018 at 8:47pm

To bring the concept into this modern world, I ask these questions.
Which reality TV stars do you follow?
Which Instagram stars do you literally follow?
Which YouTube celebrities do watch and buy merch from?
What new age guru or social/political pundit to do watch?
"Have no Idols before me" God said. 
Now is the age of the battle of Gods.
What do you "pay" attention to?
One could say that "prayer" and "sacrifice" (payment of money) could be the same now as it was in the past.....

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