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So in my professional life, I witnessed today co-workers debating (very loosely described) an issue.

I say loosely described because it appeared to me session of people just waiting for their turn to speak.

I was called into the "meeting" to assist because one of the components of the problem involved and area that I have a lot of experience in.

When attempting to take notes of the discussion unfolding in front of me, I couldn't even keep up.

So many conflicting statements, it was a whirlwind.
There was no consensus in the group.

Later after thinking about this event more, I came to the conclusion that we tend to create conflict for the sake of conflict itself.

Call it ego, or whatever, but nonetheless there it is.

I experienced it and nothing substantial/actionable came out of the meeting.

And we will meet again tomorrow.

So now I ask myself, do I create conflict to just keep me busy worrying/thinking about things?

Even if I am relatively comfortable in my material life, am I hardwired to "stir shit up".

I think I am, so now the question is, how to apply that energy without being another "hothead" in the meeting.

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Comment by sav on April 20, 2018 at 10:21pm

Emotions, yes. Your piece is called "Lust for Conflict" - a concise summation. Your response is saying that  to get things done we need a little hate and envy too, traditionally. How else can the Crusades be won without hate for the heathens mingling the with love of Christ?! But in my soft little world I like to think that hate and love are not opposites, that lust and love can be interchanged, and that domineering love is just poorly cultivated love -- in other words, love is an essence that permeates everything. The rest is just stuff for us to do.

Comment by Chris Kelley on April 20, 2018 at 9:42pm

Neither emotion is "good" or "bad", they are what they are. But that doesn't mean that the should not be paid attention to. In fact those emotions should be listened too, but listened to with the mindset of an observer. Emotions are not to be dismissed. They are signals I believe. Not the passing "hangry" feelings, but the ones that repeat.

Comment by Chris Kelley on April 20, 2018 at 9:35pm

Allow me to think this though here. If love cultivates, then hate destroys. Now when I consider these type of ideas or metaphors, my point of reference is nature. So in that framework, I would say cultivation (love) and destruction (hate) are both necessary for the ecosystem to evolve and grow.

Comment by Chris Kelley on April 20, 2018 at 9:24pm

"Love cultivates", I am having trouble writing what I think about that comment, but this is what I can say about it (your reply smacked me in the face btw, in a good way), love is an emotion and its has its own degrees of experience or manifestation. No we always assume "love" is a good thing, but at the same time to "love" oneself to the point of not willing to listen to others, is an imbalance. 

Comment by sav on April 20, 2018 at 12:54pm

At least there is somebody who sees this in a lot of settings like this. I agree, no matter how emotionally secure one person may feel, it will not be enough to tip the wait of competing fiefdoms. People just love their petty power and all the everyday drama that goes along with that. Love doesn't dominate, it cultivates - but without the kind of self-examination you're showing at the end of the post, the gradual loosening of these psychological ties is difficult.

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