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Israel Regardie, Aleister Crowley, Madam Blavatsky, and many others had their own definition of what "magic" is. I won't debate the details of their definitions, but I think we can agree to some degree that magic involves the interaction with human consciousness and the higher vibratory realms.
This interaction can lead to earthly manifestations and everything in between.
Now based on this premise I would like consider something that might be strange.

Logically I can make the argument that all worshipped gods, spirits, demons, and angels are ultimately just pop stars trying to sell records.
At the fundamental basis of this beings is energy. Natural, home made energy.
Its when there is interaction with the human consciousness (and all of its imperfections) do we produce a face, a figure. Projecting ourselves onto the energy, and thus a form whereby actions and attributes are then imagined and produced and attached to said energy.

All of these thoughts become structures for the energy to be explained, interacted with, and passed down.
Force and form, male and female, ying and yang, etc.
If you can accept the idea that human consciousness can interact with these energies and shape them, then you should also be able to accept that these gods, spirits, demons, and angels can be created and manipulated, by humans. (Think egregores and servitors).
This could also explain why these entities wax and wan through history. Sometimes they were worshipped as holy, then they were replaced by new faces and names (Greek vs Roman gods; pagans holidays and Christian).
It was the attention of the society that feed the construct.

This is a lot to consider, but the final idea I would like to present is, be-careful who and what you worship.
You probably don't know where it's been.

Oh yeah, on a more earthly dimension, white sage is commonly prescribed on the internet as something used for banishing. In the native American tradition its actually used for attracting spirits.
Yep, I got burnt by that one (I live in the US).
Tread carefully and consciously. All truths are but half truths.
The missing half is probably you.


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Comment by Chris Kelley on October 31, 2018 at 9:27pm

I agree that energy exists before "our" conscious observation is performed. The elements.
I also agree that these energy forms are "dressed" in clothes to assist in our interaction with the form.
And this is precisely why I present the question.
At what point, do the clothes that we dress those forms in, become the form itself.
For me logically, there is always some amount of footprint left behind in any interaction, at every level.
And I think that this footprint must be considered in both directions along the path...

Comment by Lea Nour on October 31, 2018 at 4:00am

Yes, I believe that it can be viewed by this way, as we already "create and manipulate" ,without to consider the Pure energy, that we cant interact in other way, or cant touch...So very truth -

All of these thoughts become structures for the energy to be explained, interacted with, and passed down. -- yet that does not mean energy forms dont exist even before our conscious manipulation or different observations on them. 

And the word "worship" itself contains some sort of manipulation? :)

One and the same concept ,god" or energy form can be viewed in many different ways, because we in fact like to make masquerade and dress them in "clothes", thats convenient for our human mind. 

In order to dress" something or someone, means he already exists...(whatever created or not)

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