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Knowing Beyond Knowing: The Heart of Hermetic Tradition
By Peter Kingsley

Published in Parabola, Spring 1997

At the center of the Hermetic tradition lies the need for a certain type of knowledge: gnosis, or knowledge of the divine. This is something entirely different from formal types of knowledge, which separate and distance us from what we think we know. Yet according to the Hermetic teachings, this knowledge is not a "bonus" or extra that we can set our minds on if we want. Far from it: without that particular knowledge we are not men and women in any true sense. This knowledge has to do with the core of our existence, and that is why it is intensely intimate. That is also why the process of discovering it is so intensely disturbing, because it forces us to confront the silent core of our being. This knowledge can never be defined in terms of formal knowledge. It is not possible to define the new in terms of the old, or something so intimate in the normal objective way. The Hermetic and Pythagorean traditions both relied heavily on teaching through hints: not because they wanted to mystify, but because that is the best that can be done. Those who are serious learn to follow the hints. Others overlook them; hence the problems that have arisen in understanding these traditions.

The Hermetic teachings—teachings ascribed to the divine prophet Hermes Trismegistus—were written down in Egypt by Greek-speaking people around two thousand years ago. Western scholarship has managed to dismiss them as second-rate philosophy, devoid of real value, filled with inconsistencies and contradictions. Even those who are more sympathetic erect grand schemes of Hermetic "doctrine"—missing out the human dimension. In fact the Hermetic writings are inconsistent, and do contradict themselves. Sometimes the world is viewed as good, as penetrated by the presence of God and living proof of God's existence. At other times it is seen as fundamentally flawed or defective: as a place to turn away from and let go of in return for a fuller, more authentic existence.

If we look closely we see that the contradictions are meaningful. When new people were first introduced to a circle whose teachings were embodied in the Hermetic texts, they were encouraged to look for the divine in the world they were used to. But as their inner strength and experience grew they were drawn to focus on the divine reality itself, and let go of attachments to a world increasingly seen as imperfect. In just the same way, at one stage teaching might be given out about the universe or about astrology which at a later stage would be dismissed as no longer relevant to the individual's needs: as holding him or her back, trapping him in the love of knowledge for the sake of knowledge when the time had come to be moving on—moving on to a knowing beyond the one we know of.

This process is clear from Hermetic writings. There is one place, for instance, where a pupil reminds his teacher of the way he had once promised to pass on to him the last remaining teaching "when you are ready to become a stranger to the world."(1) The pupil goes on to declare: "Now I am ready, because I have become a man by strengthening myself against the illusion of the world." The basic ideas of readiness and appropriateness are here—the esoteric principle that whatever is taught has to be adapted to the level of the understanding of the person concerned. And it must be remembered that, in the ancient Greek mysteries, transmission of knowledge was at a very preliminary stage: only the second of five levels, immediately after the initial stage of purification. It was a stage that was supposed to lead on as soon as possible to the third level—the level of immediate perception, where "there is nothing left to learn." (2)

There are many other sides to the question of contradiction. Speaking theoretically one could say it is the only way of pointing to the divine, which is beyond the limitations of human logic and reason. But that is just a theory. In practice, contradiction could also be used to confuse, provoke, and force one back on oneself as a preliminary to being launched into a totally new dimension of knowing. It acted like the riddles or enigmas used in ancient Pythagoreanism as a device for holding the pupil's attention: particular sayings given to a pupil to force him to focus his whole awareness on a problem rather than listening passively. The energy generated by working on the riddle transformed the pupil. This process was an initiation in its own right. The cost of finding the answer was a heavy one: the loss of one's old beliefs, the painful upheaval and transformation of one's own being. (3)

The way that this process works in the Hermetic tradition is clear from the passage already mentioned. The scene opens on the disciple complaining that, in the earlier stages of the teaching, his teacher had never said anything clear about the highest truth but had just talked in riddles. Now, he insists, it is time for the great revelation.

But the revelation doesn't come. Instead the teacher talks more enigmatically than ever. The disciple begins complaining even more desperately; but in the face of all the protests and angry frustration, the teacher repeats that "this affair is not taught." When the disciple says he is so disoriented that he can't even find himself, the teacher laconically replies: "If only that were really the case!" The teacher then goes on to throw him into such confusion that the disciple ends up making the statement: "Now you've really driven me crazy. I thought that through you I would become wise, but all that's happened is that my awareness has become completely blocked up." It is when the disciple admits his helplessness that the teacher explains: Now you have got it all wrong. At the level of the senses, yes, you're powerless. But what you have to do, he says, is draw to you what you need from a totally different dimension—a dimension beyond words, and a dimension of utter silence.

The disciple desperately wants to understand: to find consistency, theoretical understanding. But his intellect is frustrated, flattened, evoked only to be pushed to the edge of extinction—until the understanding starts to come from an entirely different level. That other level is what the pupil was after all along. Unless we have some desire for it, or a deep dissatisfaction with things as they are, the dynamic of the teaching process is bound to remain completely alien.

From a mystical point of view, the Hermetic account of confusion and frustration—and the telling detail about one's perception becoming totally "blocked up"—is perfectly correct. These are essential stages in shifting from one dimension of awareness to another. One has to confront a brick wall before one can get beyond it. This has been referred to as the "spiritual constipation" that inevitably precedes a jump forward in awareness. (4)

The heart of the Hermetic tradition was the relationship with the teacher. The famous "rebirth" of Hermeticism during the Italian Renaissance was a Pearl Searchingrevival of intellectual schemes and inspiring ideas, rather than of its heart.

The Hermetic texts often give important indications about the teaching process: about the responsibilities of the teacher, and the responsibilities of the pupil. The indication show that the relationship with the teacher was very different from a relationship with some all-knowing authority figure.

One of these texts was only found during the 1940s in southern Egypt, among the gnostic texts discovered near Nag Hammadi. (5) It is very precise.

My child, it's your business to understand; it's my job to be successful at speaking the words that spring from the source which flows inside me.

In other words, it's not only a matter of the disciple grasping the truth of what he is told. The teacher also needs to catch something, and to keep catching it. He doesn't have some fixed knowledge, but need to discover it freshly at every moment. The disciple's job is to learn to share this process, to develop the same awareness. As another Hermetic text explains:

My child, he who listens must perceive the same as he who speaks, share his awareness; he must breathe together with him, share the same spirit, his hearing must be sharper than the voice of he who speaks.

Each instruction here is a whole teaching in itself. The idea of "breathing together" with the teacher (sympneein) recurs in the same form in Persian Sufism, where the intimacy of the relationship with the teacher and disciple is described as "being of the same breath" (ham-dam). The coincidence is no surprise: we can trace the paths by which the Hermetic tradition of Egypt passed through the Islamic world into Persian Sufism. (6)

Then there is also another statement made close to the start of the Hermetic text known as Asclepius. It gives the key to understanding not just what knowledge was for the writers of the Hermetic texts, but also how those texts themselves were composed.

Now be completely present, give me your whole attention, with all the understanding that you are capable of, with all the subtlety you can muster. For the teaching about divinity requires a divine concentration of consciousness if it's to be understood. It's just like a torrential river, plunging headlong down from the heights so violently that with its rapidity and speed it outstrips the attention not only of whoever is listening but also of whoever is speaking.

Knowledge moves so fast that you have to be as fast as it is if you want to keep pace. There is no standing still. You have to keep moving, leaving what you knew behind, otherwise it will hold you back.

The truth flows so rapidly that anything you think you know is not the truth, because knowing is too slow. And that applies especially to the teacher.

Real knowledge demands a tremendously subtle awareness. We have to be poised and empty, listening and watching. It keeps streaming down. It's invisible, not because it's "somewhere else," as we have been led to believe, but because its rapid flow is what actually creates everything we see. The only way we can perceive it is through a total focus, through being completely present as the text demands. And even then it's not for us. It's flowing, ever-moving—like the Hermetic tradition itself.

The image of the violent torrent also says something else. We think of spiritual life as beauty and peace and escape from violence. But truth is violent too. In fact, it is the only violence there is. The only power that exists is the power of that torrent, because it creates the world of the senses. The very power we use to put one foot in front of the other comes from behind the senses. What we call violence is what happens when we hold onto fixed ideas and the violent power of reality is blocked. Ultimately there is nothing "otherworldly" about this. It's intensely practical.

The role of the teacher is to help the disciple to speed up. But until this has been done the disciple is not able to understand what the teacher is. That is why the pupil has to be driven almost crazy so that he can begin to see himself as he really is. As the teacher tries to explain:

I am now not what I was; I have been born in consciousness. This affair is not taught, and it can't be taught through this fabricated body of ours which gives us the sense of sight. My original form is no longer of any concern to me. Now I am colorless; I can no longer be touched; I can no longer be measured, I am different from all that. Now, child, you see me with your eyes. But as you look at my body and appearance you don't perceive what I am, because I can't be seen with those eyes.

The Hermetic teacher could be merciless and cruel: aspects we might prefer to forget. Yet most Hermetic texts end with songs of devotion and praise, while the voice that speaks through the teacher in the Asclepius is the voice of Love. This was a tradition that concerned itself with transformation, and for transformation a price has to be paid. In this case the price was to give up being children, and become true men and women.


(1) The text is Corpus Hermeticum 13. The translations are my own.
(2) For the quotation (from Clement of Alexandria) and full documentation see Peter Kingsley, Ancient Philosophy, Mystery, and Magic (Oxford University Press, 1995), pp 230-231, 367-368.
(3) On riddles, hints, and initiation in ancient Pythagoreanism see ibid., chapters 4 and 23 - 24.
(4) Irina Tweedie, Daughter of Fire (Golden Sufi Center, Inverness, CA, 1995), pp. 389, 457; the background here is one of Persian and Indian Sufism. For direct connections between Hermetic tradition and Sufism see Kingsley, pp. 371-391.
(5) The Hermetic texts quoted in this final section are: Nag Hammadi Codices vi.55.19-22; Corpus Hermeticum 10.17; Asclepius 3; Corpus Hermeticum 13.3.
(6) For ham-dam see Michaela Özelsel, Forty Days (Brattleboro, VT: Threshold Books, 1996), p. 127. For the links between Hermetic tradition and Persian Sufism, see above, note 4.

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 this was an excellent article. lol. :)

i meant to say, I now understand what the quiet time/blockage was.

:D big mouth (me, not You)

I don't know about the rest, but I liked it. I can relate with it spiritually, not dogmatically.

wonderful post and I can relate to so much of it.

My child, he who listens must perceive the same as he who speaks, share his awareness; he must breathe together with him, share the same spirit, his hearing must be sharper than the voice of he who speaks.


Real knowledge demands a tremendously subtle awareness. We have to be poised and empty, listening and watching. It keeps streaming down. It's invisible, not because it's "somewhere else," as we have been led to believe, but because its rapid flow is what actually creates everything we see.


This is an extraordinary post.  I never heard of Peter Kingsley before reading this post so of course I immediately ordered one of his books, REALITY, from 

It is interesting I came across this blog today seeing that earlier this morning before going to bed I was rereading CG Jung RED BOOK beginning with his four biblical quotations and asked myself why he wrote out these four passages before beginning his RED BOOK.  I knew the answer was that he was relating the fact that this book solely concerned the vision he had, which began the whole process of his life's work.  I have several books by Jungian psychologists giving their interpretations of the Red Book but they  bypass these biblical passages seemingly at the speed of Summer lightning.  It seems to me that CG Jung was encapsulating his entire thesis in these few biblical verses but if the Jungian psychologists had summarily dismissed them then it goes to what else they have misread in the rest of the book.

Peter Kingsley puts into words what I could never have express so eloquently as to the teacher and the student: one who speaks and the other that listen.

His speaking about knowledge beyond knowledge is beautiful I could not stop thinking about the Golden Ratio as I was reading what he was saying about putting behind continuously what you have learn in order to move on.  The next swing of the spiral cannot take place if one is not willing to release previous knowledge.  The New Testament puts it in the mouth of Christ when he called the Pharisee 'white sepulchers' because they were holding onto time honored systems.

Thank You Carol for introducing Peter Kingsley for I am sure he has a great deal to say to me in his writings.

Never have I come to grips more concerning the idea that by naming and concertizing our understanding of the mystical in words that instead we place that knowledge in 'white sepulchers': Tomes that build libraries.

I cannot thank you enough!!! I am so very grateful for this re-posting. The synchronicity of this article now for me is so in alignment with the research I have been doing on various aspects of the Hermetic Code and GNOSIS.  This very article holds information I so need to be reminded of and add to my personal data base.  

Peter Kingsley is an amazing Light in the world of bringing new understanding to old thought. If you click on this link there are a number of interviews with him and with other people Peter endorses that are living Gnosis.  

He is one who believes we find consciousness through our senses......unity also means paying attention to what is in front of us. Socrates mostly erased what Empidolcles taught about using senses (and myth) to understand life.....interesting that the Catholic Church at one point wanted to make Socrates a saint!

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I so love synchronicity: I just sent Bill Meegan some info re: The Hermetic Code in DNA, The Sacred Principles in the Ordering of the Universe By (author) Michael Hayes and later opened my e-mail to find this from Steve!

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